October 2025 β€” pre-crisis baseline regimen

"Paul's Medicines 10/16/2025," compiled by Melissa C. Moyers, ARN (Sun City Center, FL). The last documented med list before the April 2026 cold-turkey crisis (original PDF β†’). Reconciling it against today's regimen overturns several things we'd been inferring β€” and reframes the tic story.

The list, as written

Faithfully transcribed. The original used a "Taking" column β€” βœ… = actively taking, ⬜ = prescribed but not taking. The not-taking items are as informative as the active ones.

πŸ«€ Regular meds

TakingMedDoseScheduleListed for
βœ…Pantoprazole SOD DR40 mgNightAcid reflux
⬜Klor-Con (potassium)10 mEqNightLow potassium
⬜Tamsulosin0.4 mgNightProstate (BPH)
⬜Furosemide (Lasix)40 mgMorningWater pill (diuretic)
⬜Amiodarone HCL200 mg Γ—2AM/NightVentricular arrhythmias Β· note: "vision problems"
βœ…Atorvastatin10 mgNightCholesterol
⬜Fenofibrate160 mgNightCholesterol (lower LDL/TG)
⬜Eliquis (apixaban)5 mgAM/NightBlood clots / AFib
βœ…Amlodipine besylate10 mgNightBlood pressure
βœ…Clopidogrel (Plavix)75 mgMorningBlood clots (platelets)
βœ…Metoprolol tartrate50 mgAM/NightBP / angina
βœ…Nurtec (rimegepant)75 mgEvery other dayHeadache (migraine)
βœ…Aspirin81 mgNightBlood thinner

🧠 Mental health

TakingMedDoseScheduleListed for
⬜Haloperidol0.5 mgNight"Treat Tourette's"
βœ…Alprazolam (Xanax)0.5 mg Γ— 4–5/dayDay/NightAnxiety
βœ…Duloxetine (Cymbalta)40 mgAM/NightDepression
⬜Quetiapine fumarate (Seroquel)25 mgAM/NightDepression / sleep
βœ…Quelbree (viloxazine)300 mgMorningADHD
βœ…Olanzapine (Zyprexa)5 mgNightDepression / sleep

πŸ€• Severe pain

TakingMedDoseScheduleListed for
βœ…Hydrocodone-acetaminophen10–325 mg Γ— 4–5/dayAM/Aft/NightPain
βœ…Cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril)10 mgNightNerve pain (muscle relaxant)
βœ…Morphine sulfate15 mgAs neededPain

⚠️ What this forces us to correct

Several things the repo had inferred turn out to be wrong or incomplete. Folding these in:

  • Olanzapine is NOT a crisis-initiated med. He was on olanzapine 5 mg for "Depression/Sleep" in Oct 2025 β€” it was doubled to 10 mg during the crisis and later relabeled "Tourette's" by NP Alyssa (6/8). The timeline's "olanzapine likely initiated during the Baker Act" was a guess, now corrected. It's a long-standing depression/sleep med that got uptitrated and reassigned, not a purpose-built tic drug.
  • The cardiac + GI block predates the detox by months. Clopidogrel, metoprolol, amlodipine, atorvastatin, and pantoprazole were all already on board in Oct 2025. The 2026 "start dates / 30-day" windows on the current page are facility re-orders on admission, not true starts. One real exception: aspirin β€” it's on the Oct 2025 sheet, but per family he wasn't consistently taking it until recently (likely the lifelong charted aspirin allergy). So clopidogrel was the long-standing antiplatelet; adding aspirin recently is what makes it dual antiplatelet therapy.
  • Dose changes since Oct 2025:
    • Atorvastatin 10 β†’ 40 mg (intensified to high-intensity statin β€” appropriate for CAD + stroke)
    • Amlodipine 10 β†’ 5 mg (halved β€” worth asking whether cutting his BP med contributed to the current 160+ creep)
    • Olanzapine 5 β†’ 10 mg
    • Duloxetine 40 mg β†’ 40 mg BID (80 mg/day)
  • His cardiac history is deeper than "AFib." Amiodarone β€” a serious antiarrhythmic β€” was prescribed for ventricular arrhythmias (not just AFib), stopped apparently over "vision problems" (a classic amiodarone ocular side effect). A documented ventricular-arrhythmia history materially raises the stakes on every QT-prolonging med he's on (olanzapine, duloxetine, and any tic antipsychotic). Flag for cardiology.
  • Eliquis (apixaban) prescribed but stopped β€” consistent with the Watchman story (the device exists precisely so you can come off anticoagulation). Confirms the antiplatelet-only strategy was already in place by Oct 2025.
  • Opioid: the documented opioid regimen was hydrocodone-acetaminophen (4–5/day) + morphine 15 mg PRN + cyclobenzaprine β€” confirmed by Paul (earlier "oxycodone" references corrected to hydrocodone throughout the repo).
  • Quetiapine is in his history (prescribed, not taken). Relevant to the standing "quetiapine vs olanzapine" open question β€” he has prior exposure, so it's not a from-scratch trial.

🧩 The tic story, re-analyzed

This is the big one. Paul's question was: what was prescribed to help the tics, and has it been removed or changed? The Oct 2025 list answers it cleanly β€” and the answer is uncomfortable.

What was actually holding his tics in Oct 2025

  • Haloperidol 0.5 mg β€” the one med literally labeled "Treat Tourette's" β€” he was NOT taking. A dedicated, FDA-approved tic drug sat unused on his list.
  • Alprazolam ~2–2.5 mg/day (4–5 Γ— 0.5 mg) β€” the de facto tic suppressant. Labeled "anxiety" here, but per About Dad the lifelong original indication for his benzo was tic + anxiety control. GABAergic suppression is almost certainly what kept the tics tolerable for ~30 years.
  • Olanzapine 5 mg ("Depression/Sleep") β€” some incidental dopaminergic tic benefit, but not prescribed for tics.

So his tics were being held by Xanax β€” while a real tic drug (haloperidol) went untaken. There was never an intentional, purpose-built tic regimen; the benzo was quietly doing that job.

What happened to each since

AgentTic roleStatus now
Alprazolam (Xanax)De facto lifelong tic suppressantRemoved β€” cold turkey 4/9. The detox.
HaloperidolDedicated FDA tic medStill absent β€” was never being taken; not picked up since
OlanzapineIncidental β†’ now the "official" tic medDoubled (5 β†’ 10 mg) + relabeled "Tourette's"
ClonidineGenuine tic med (added in detox)Removed β€” 4-day taper finished 5/30
NACEmerging tic evidenceUnderdosed (300 mg/day vs research 600–1200 BID) + relabeled "inflammation"

The headline: the only thing that was actually suppressing his tics (the benzo) was removed β€” correctly, it had to go β€” and nothing was ever intentionally built to replace its tic-suppressing role. Olanzapine was relabeled into the gap, not designed into it; clonidine came and went; NAC is a token dose. That is a coherent, predictable reason the tics have flared to self-injury (raw tongue) β€” and it's the strongest argument yet for prioritizing the movement-disorder neurology referral. There is even a dedicated tic med (haloperidol) already in his history that was never optimized β€” a neuro would either rationalize it or, better, move to a modern, better-tolerated agent (aripiprazole / a VMAT2 inhibitor) plus CBIT, plus targeted botulinum toxin for the injurious tongue tic.


πŸ†• New threads this surfaces (currently unaddressed)

Ventricular arrhythmia history

Amiodarone was prescribed for ventricular arrhythmias (stopped for vision problems). This is more than the AFib we'd documented. It raises the bar on QT vigilance for every psych/tic med and belongs in the cardiology handoff.

ADHD β€” untreated now

He was on Quelbree (viloxazine, a non-stimulant) for ADHD in Oct 2025. It's gone from the current regimen. Non-stimulant choice was tic-smart; worth asking the neuro/psych whether ADHD needs re-addressing (and untreated ADHD/stress can amplify tics).

Migraine β€” untreated now

Nurtec (rimegepant, a CGRP antagonist) for migraine, every other day. Also dropped. If headaches return (he reported bad headaches in early detox), this is a known, effective tool that fell off the list.


Family advocate's running record. Faithful transcription of a provider-compiled list + reconciliation analysis. Not medical advice β€” a structured capture for productive questions with the care team.